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Sunscreen Dangerous? Experts Shed Light on the Controversy

by Grace Gold (Subscribe to Grace Gold's posts)
Posted Apr 4th 2011 at 12:00PM  
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Is your sunscreen safe? Photo: Alix Minde/Getty

When we first covered the controversy surrounding model Gisele Bündchen's use of the word "poison" to describe sunscreen (a term her publicist later refuted as an incorrect translation), StyleList was inundated with reader comments that surprisingly shared a similar suspicion about the safety of chemicals in common sunscreens.

Combine that with the results of a study published last year that sparked fears of a cancerous relationship between a form of vitamin A found in sunscreen formulations and sun exposure, and it's no wonder people are concerned.

That got us thinking: Is there such a thing as natural sunscreen? Why do brands even use chemicals to begin with, and should consumers be wary of any of them? And what is the status on the Food and Drug Administration's investigation into the retinyl palmitate scare?

As far as natural sunscreens go, there is disagreement between the medical and holistic communities about what constitutes the word "natural."

On one hand, American Board of Dermatology President Dr. Robert T. Brodell says there is no such thing as a natural sunscreen.

"None of the products that protect the skin significantly would be considered 'natural,'" Brodell tells StyleList. "The closest thing would be 'chemical-free' sunscreens. The white paste you see on a lifeguard's nose in the summer is zinc oxide... the classic example," adds the Ohio dermatologist.

Defined as an "inorganic compound" because it's formed by chemical bonds that lack a carbon molecule, zinc oxide, and its common cousin titanium dioxide, are earth minerals often found as a physical block in sunscreen. Dermatologists consider both compounds to be safely proven ways of blocking both harmful UVA and UVB sunrays.

Yet organic expert and "The Green Beauty Guide" author Julie Gabriel, says that she is willing to consider an element like zinc oxide as natural, since it's a mineral.

"The absence of a natural sunscreen is a fairy tale of the conventional beauty industry. I've been using a basic handmade blend of beeswax, calendula oil, zinc oxide, green tea and vitamin E during my ski weekends in very high altitudes of 2,500 meters in Davos, Switzerland," Gabriel tells StyleList.

"I've had no sun damage, no tan, no marks, nothing," says Gabriel, who adds that she came up with the concoction by mixing a zinc oxide-containing diaper balm with the marigold-colored calendula plant to add a glowy finish.

If making your own blend, Gabriel recommends purchasing zinc oxide from either Ingredients to Die For or Texas Natural Supply. The organic expert says she has worked with both retailers, and considers them top, trustworthy sources.

With such nonirritating, noncontroversial sunblocks available, one wonders why brands even go the route of chemical blends. Experts say it's primarily because consumers find that physical blocks can feel heavy, smell strongly, and cast an unnatural pale tint to skin, especially on deeper skin tones.

"Because zinc oxide and titanium dioxide sit on the skin's surface without being absorbed, they are nonirritating and nonallergenic. But this is also the reason why natural sunscreens require a lot more rubbing in, and advance application time to bind with the skin to be effective," says New York State Society for Dermatology and Dermatologic Surgery President, Dr. David Bank.

Some brands turn to chemicals for lighter and seemingly more elegant formulas, which protect skin by first interacting with UV light, and then undergoing a chemical reaction that blocks out dangerous sunrays.

These chemicals are often of the multisyllabic, impossible-to-pronounce variety, with common examples being avobenzone, benzophenonone, triethanolamine, and the easier to say, though no less mired in controversy, ingredient of PABA.

Mexoryl, which enjoyed a highly anticipated debut on the US market after tremendous success in Europe, is gaining recognition as a favored chemical sunscreen. Experts attribute the ingredient's popularity to its light, easily absorbed texture, nearly non-existent scent and superior block of both UVA and UVB rays.

The newest chemical sunscreens that are currently pending FDA approval are Tinosorb S and Tinosorb M, which offer a trio of powerful actions, including absorbing, reflecting and scattering ultraviolet rays. They're both very naturally stable, which makes for a more dependable and long-lasting application, shares Bank.

And that means greater protection against the signs of aging.

"These products (chemical ingredients) also protect against the long-term problems associated with sun exposure, including wrinkling, brown spots, yellowing and thickening of the skin, precancers and skin cancers. The weight of the evidence strongly favors routine use of sunscreens, whether chemical or physical," Brodell strongly advises.

However, it's what happens during the chemical transformation phase that causes some to speculate on the overall safety of the active ingredients. It's here where the heart of the chemical sunscreen controversy exists.

"Triethanolamine has been identified as an active in promoting the release of free radicals in our bodies once the UVA and UVB radiations saturate our skin," says Los Angeles dermatologist, Dr. Ava Shamban, author of "Heal Your Skin."

Free radicals are considered by many in the beauty industry to be volatile molecules that react explosively and cause the kind of tissue damage that leads to aging and disease.

Another concern with chemical sunscreens is the potential for skin sensitivity issues in those who are suspeptible.

"The chemical most responsible for an allergic reaction to sunscreen is oxybenzone, which is also one of the most commonly used chemicals in broad-spectrum sunscreen," explains Maryland dermatologist, Dr. Noelle Sherber. "I always tell my patients with sensitive skin to avoid it, because it's the most common culprit of redness, itchiness and bumps."

But oxybenzone isn't just a problem for those who have sensitive skin. Bank says it's an ingredient that has long been questioned for its safety.

"Oxybenzone is of most concern to many scientists. In a study by the Center for Disease Control, it was proven to be absorbed into the blood stream systemically, and excreted in the urine of 97 percent of study participants. More studies are needed to give us a comprehensive understanding of how these chemicals behave in skin cells," says Bank.

Fortunately, most experts agree that the new technology found in micronized mineral sunscreen is both safer and more enjoyable to apply and wear. These nano particles block rays with zinc oxide or titanium dioxide, yet apply less white and with a sheerer finish than their traditional forms. Protection works by bouncing sun radiation waves off skin.

You should especially consider micronized mineral sunscreen for babies and children, says Sherber.

"The amount of surface area compared to body mass is very different between a baby and an adult. Whatever you apply all over a baby's skin will be absorbed more, because they have so much more skin than body mass. For example, a topical eczema-treatment cream can be given to adults without a problem, but the active ingredients are absorbed at such a high rate by children, that it can actually stunt their growth," says Sherber.

While the collective consensus between the natural and dermatology worlds seems to skew toward physical blocks, the debate on the safety of retinyl palmitate in sunscreen has moved little since the Environmental Working Group raised concerns this past year over an FDA study that showed an increase in cancer cells of mice exposed to sunlight while wearing a retinyl palmitate-containing cream.

"Retinols and retinoids in general have been a nighttime preparation, as it makes the skin sun sensitive. Some manufacturers believed that since retinols are antioxidants, then adding them to sunscreen would be beneficial," explains Bank.

However, the study in question surprised experts when it was shown that vitamin A could possibly turn photocarcinogenic under sunrays.

Yet evidence pointing to retinyl palmitate as a cause of cancer remains unproven, as the original study examined the form of vitamin A in plain skin cream, not sunscreen. Further review by the FDA this winter shed no additional light on the situation.

Sherber cautions against jumping to conclusions when other mitigating factors may have colored the results of the study.

"The possibility that the shininess of the cream could have magnified their UV exposure -- like putting on old-school baby oil in the sun -- is one of several potential confounders," says Sherber.

"It's also important to note that the mice used in NTP (National Toxology Program) studies are highly susceptible to UV radiation. They can get skin cancer within weeks of UV exposure. While this makes studies of skin cancer in these mice feasible because they can show effects within weeks rather than years of UV exposure, we have to be very careful not to assume that these mice respond to UV or other skin-directed treatments in the same way that humans do," adds Sherber.

Experts also caution consumers that just because a substance may be naturally derived, that doesn't mean it's automatically safe.

"The FDA looks at vitamins and minerals in a less stringent way than other drugs, so I am always nervous about the safety of such products," admits Brodell. Citing that the study was done on mice, and never with sunscreen, Brodell adds, "I do not worry, for myself or my family, about retinyl palmitate, but reserve the right to change my mind if more information would become available."

Yet, Shamban takes a more conservative approach in her interpretation of the same study results.

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Read these expert tips before applying sunscreen. Photo: Getty

"Vitamin A has been known to make skin more sensitive, and is recommended to use at night. I do not recommend using a sunscreen with Vitamin A. Vitamin C and E is OK for sunscreen, but vitamin A is only recommended for night use because of its rejuvenating effects," says Shamban.

And so, the debate rages on. But with an industry that continually churns out sunscreen options that range the gamut of views discussed here, there's bound to be a new favorite for everyone's needs and comfort level.

Topping our experts' recommendation list are the Blue Lizard Chemical Free Sunscreen line, Skinceuticals Sheer Physical UV Defense SPF 30, Badger Balm SPF 30 Natural Sunscreen and La Roche-Posay Anthelios SX.

Whatever your choice, most experts agree that you should select an SPF 30 that specifically cites full-spectrum UVA and UVB protection. Remember, it's always best to go a little higher in SPF number, as the average person doesn't apply the full shot-glass worth of sunscreen it takes to achieve the printed SPF number.

But will all this protection deplete your vitamin D levels? Now, that's an entirely different story.
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Erik Kreider, 4-04-2011, 10:23PM

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This is definitely an article that covers a great many important topics concerning sunscreen - great to see. Unfortunately the 'experts' often continue to perpetuate the myths that drug/chemical companies continually feed them for marketing purposes. I'd urge the editors to look deeper into the science of the following, vs. strictly quoting people who have conflicts of interest regarding sunscreen sales.
1. Dr. Brodell: While the sunscreen industry has coined the term 'chemical-free' to describe sunscreen products that do not contain the petrochemical active ingredients, and instead use the minerals zinc oxide and titanium dioxide, these two ingredients are still 'chemicals' just as dihydrogen monoxide (water) is a chemical, and the amino acids that are present in every single cell of our bodies are also chemicals. Using 'chemical-free' to describe anything is an oxymoron; some formulas may be 'petrochemical-free' but nothing on this planet is chemical-free, whether it’s natural or otherwise. Additionally, there is VERY LITTLE evidence that suggests sunscreens prevent skin cancers – mostly the opposite is true if one reviews the medical literature, but no one has done a thorough study into why sunscreen users often have a higher incidence of melanoma. Dr. Brodell – please show us the data to back up the assertion that ‘sunscreens’ prevent skin cancer! A drug company telling you so doesn’t count.
2. Julie Gabriel's advice is sound - zinc oxide is the BEST uv absorbing FDA-approved active ingredient on the planet - this is based on its physical chemistry and UV absorption profile, which is wider than titanium dioxide. It is commonly described as reflecting UV energy because it looks white and does reflect in the VISIBLE spectrum, but it actually does band-gap absorption in the UV (and would look black if we could see UV).
3. Dr. Bank - it always surprises me that more people who should be truly in the know about sunscreen use, aren't suggesting people use sunscreens that perform exactly the way the minerals do - by sitting on the SURFACE of the skin vs. getting absorbed through it and into our bodies. BUT, mineral sunscreens DON'T 'rub in' by nature; and they need not be applied any earlier than typical petrochemical versions, which all recommend application (generally 15 minutes) before UV exposure. It's sad that this president of an 'expert' organization describes mineral sunscreens in a deficient tone, because they actually provide broader spectrum and safer protection than the petrochemicals.
4. The UV absorption profile of mexoryl is essentially identical to avobenzone, also known as a UVA absorber. The status it's received as 'much anticipated' is due to L'Oreal's extensive and thorough marketing program with dermatologists and the media as primary targets. L'Oreal also owns the patent on mexoryl and makes tens of millions on this product. The main benefit of this compound is UV stability, so doesn't create as many oxidative free radicals upon absorption of UV radiation as does avobenzone. This information is publicly available in the published literature on this benzene-based petrochemical derivative.
5. The CDC study demonstrates that oxybenzone bioaccumulates without a doubt; other sunscreen actives are very similar in chemical structure but no one has done an equivalently thorough study, which leads one to believe that it's highly likely they bioaccumulate as well. The petrochemical sunscreens also have a host of other issues, from estrogenicity to ecological toxicity.
6. Good advice from Dr. Sherber - she has most accurate and scientifically-based expert advice of anyone interviewed here. Bravo!
7. Retinol exposure and UV exposure: consider the simple biochemistry facts of both events:
A) Retinols work as a skin rejuvenator because this class of biochemicals encourages skin cells to remodel and divide. B) UV energy damages cellular structures like DNA, this type of DNA damage is a prerequisite for skin cancer if it cannot be properly repaired in time before cell division by normal enzymatic processes. So, imagine, a skin cell with UV damaged DNA receives the retinol-mediated signal to divide before the repair process is complete – that UV-induced DNA damage becomes permanent and the risk of skin cancer increases. It’s biochemically obvious that retinols are potentially unsafe in sunscreens for this reason. From a manufacturer’s perspective, it’s irresponsible to include retinols in sunscreen formulas. Keep retinols in night crèmes and don’t expose customers to unnecessary risk. It’s common biochemical sense.
8. SPF – anything above SPF 15 is a marketing gimmick based on the math – SPF 15 provides 93.3% UVB protection, SPF 20 provides 95%, SPF 30 provides 96.7%. It is true that many users don’t apply the rated amount, so why not educate proper application? 50% of an SPF 30 formula DOES NOT EQUAL SPF 15! It’s more like SPF 6 because SPF and percent protection is not a linear relationship as described above (from SPF 15 to SPF infinity, you’ll only get 6.7% additional protection). Keep in mind that SPF is only part of the story – SPF only indicates UVB protection, and, as scary as it is, there is no FDA approved UVA test yet; instead formulas say ‘broad spectrum.’

An excellent, high performance, UVA/UVB, non-nano, zinc oxide sunscreen that is petrochemical-free and contains 86% certified organic ingredients is
Green Screen Organic Sunscreen . It’s also available in a tinted formula, which is designed to eliminate the chalky cast that’s common with mineral sunscreens.

Green Screen was created by a Stanford-trained biochemist turned dermatology pharmaceutical scientist precisely because so much misinformation exists in the sunscreen industry, and even the ‘experts’ often don’t know what they’re talking about.

Be skeptical, read, save your hide (and healthy body too).

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diane, 4-10-2011, 10:55PM

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Erik,

thanking you for such a well written, well documented, comprehensive,knowledable and unbiased documentations re: sunscreen. I wish there were more well-informed individuals willing to share their knowledge; so much of what we hear and read is biased and the average consumer has no idea. thank you again for the time and energy you invested in writing your response.

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zapthief, 4-11-2011, 2:09AM

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Good post, even if I don't agree with all of it. (The fact that sunscreen users have higher rates of cancer than non-users has far too many variables involved to be even remotely valid as evidence that sunscreen doesn't reduce skin cancer rates. If you have sensitive skin, you may be more likely to use sunscreen because your skin hurts more than someone with less sensitive skin. That same sensitivity may make you more prone to cancer. Etc.)

I am deeply dismayed at this and other articles, however, which jump on the absolutely hideously wrong notion that "natural" or "organic" has ANYTHING whatsoever to do with "safe".

Arsenic is "natural". Hydrogen cyanide is "natural". Botulism is "natural". Nature has been evolving ways of killing us (and killing other critters) for millions of years.

As an aside, I find it sad, but not altogether surprising, that someone who chooses to write about beauty may not have the faintest inkling about chemistry. However, surely the writer could've at least *asked* someone who did? To say that something is an inorganic compound because it's "formed by chemical bonds" would be funnier if sharing such flat-out wrong information didn't mean that other nitwits who know no better have now been exposed to something which doesn't remotely resemble the truth.

Organic compounds have carbon. Inorganic don't. In a broader sense, organic compounds are found in nature as part of living things. Inorganic compounds aren't. That's an oversimplification, but at least it has some relation to reality. Don't talk about scientific or technical details unless you either know what you're talking about, or have closely consulted with someone who does.

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jaba, 4-11-2011, 1:08PM

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jaba

A little winded, aren't you?

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Devra Wathen, 4-13-2011, 12:35PM

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Aloha from Honolulu Hawaii,
Thank you for your stellar review(comment) on the dangerous sunscreen debate. I couldn't have adressed as well as you, great job. After many years of trying to reverse my so called sun damaged skin and literally thousands of dollars in treatments only to have the freckles and brown spots return led me to my own conclusion about sunscreens(natural or synthetic). It was not good. Yes, they stopped the burn but not the damage that the UVA rays are now known to cause. How can we even know if these new broad spectrums really work they have only been on the market since 2007? Yes, they all did great protecting me from the UVB-burning rays but did nothing to protect my skin from the UVA-aging rays! So out of the need for necessity and due to my lifestyle I needed a solution to protect my face from the sun but more importantly to protect my face from reflective surfaces such as the sand and water. Covering up with protective clothing was easy but finding the right hat that protected my neck, cheeks, nose and mouth areas was "Mission Impossible" and still have it be stylish. It is unfortunate that the general public really is miss-led by the barrage of marketing and hype when it comes to beauty and skincare products-but especially when it comes to sunscreen. As much as I would love to shout it from the roof tops the general population and (majority rules) still believes that sunscreen prevents skin cancer and that broad-spectrum's are the answer to safe sun..Unfortunately I think the advertising, marketing, and skin care companies are winning.There is no such thing as a safe tan, but most people think there is as long as you wear sunscreen it protects you from cancer-HA Even as the owner of ETSIS Hats and Apparel I still support wearing sunscreen to avoid a nasty burn if you are going to be in the sun for any extended period of time, some is better then none? After all my years living in two extremely sunny places Colorado and Hawaii covering up with protective clothing, gloves, sunglasses, and a great hat is my healthy solution. Please visit my website www.etsishats.com we are a brand new sunhat company and we are presenting both sides about sunscreens and sun protection on our site-it is what the public is comfortable with and can draw their own conclusions as to what is the best way to approach sun protection for themselves. We hope to feature great blogs like what I just read Erik thank you for your insight.Look forward to our response. So much to say on this debate topic. Much Aloha,
Devra

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hogannegozi, 5-05-2011, 4:16AM

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hogannegozi

this is the longest comment i have ever seen.hogan negozi

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Erik Kreider, 5-05-2011, 11:20PM

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@ Zapthief
I am a biochemist, and agree with you about the fact that research studying sunscreen use and skin cancer rates hasn't adequately controlled for various variables that are quite obvious as you cite. The ‘experts’ are regularly quoted as saying it’s ‘well known’ that sunscreens reduce skin cancer rates (Dr. Friedman – Nanodermatology Society - http://www.digitaljournal.com/pr/283951 fourth paragraph. NDS is funded by big pharma but claims to be 'physician-led'), when in fact the extant data suggest otherwise or are inconclusive. I thought my quote in the original post addressed this issue, "but no one has done a thorough study into why sunscreen users often have a higher incidence of melanoma," which is one of the few things that’s been statistically observed in studies, but indeed, for what reasons? Some of the potential hypotheses: elevated UV sensitivity amongst sunscreen users, trading UV damage for petrochemical damage (better data, albeit weak, exist for protection against basal and squamous carcinomas which have distinct biomolecular carcinogenic processes), improper application, or a false sense of security and getting irradiated. That is, believing the labeled claim of 'all day protection' and 'water-proof' or 'sweat-proof' will get a user into trouble because no sunscreen delivers these benefits. Incidentally all these terms were made illegal in FDA's 1999 OTC Final Monograph on sunscreen labeling (which was to be federal law defining what sunscreen manufacturers could and could not claim on labels) precisely because these terms give consumers a false sense of security and are “misleading” (language in the 1999 Monograph).

FDA subsequently put an indefinite stay on the 1999 ‘Final’ Monograph, and has been deliberating since. Note that pharma/chemical companies have a lot of sway within the FDA; their complaints were the reason FDA staid the 1999 monograph.

Sunscreens, per FDA's testing modalities, may help prevent sunburn, which is mediated by dermal UVB absorption. That is all. If one wants the best possible protection from a sunscreen, one should choose a non-nano zinc oxide-based, petrochemical-free product, that will provide broad spectrum UVA and UVB protection, stay on the surface of our skin, and not bioaccumulate or have undesirable side effects. Green Screen is a good choice. Staying in the shade is better.

Regarding ‘natural’ claims: I too run into consumers who regularly think if something is ‘natural’ it must be good for them. This is nonsense! It is not an exaggeration to state that the most TOXIC compounds on the planet are 100% certifiably organic and natural (and indeed many naturally occurring minerals are poisonous too).

As consumers, we all have to learn about ingredients and read ingredient labels – it’s the only way to protect our health.

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Brian Wm Burnett, 4-05-2011, 8:05AM

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Personally I avoid using sunscreens.
My way is to start off slow and get a gradual tan .
That is more "natural" than slathering cremes and ointments on your body and making the manufacturers richer.
After all, tanning is the body's natural defense to too much UV exposure.
Start off slow and don't try to get the entire years tan in one sitting or laying.

If worried about too much exposure to the sun, then wear something to cover up with.
Simple, natural and free and no expensive concoctions to buy.

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sally, 4-10-2011, 11:54PM

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sally

It's a well known and documented fact that acquiring a tan is no protection against future problems. The burn turns tan. Next time out in sun you stay longer, burn over old tan and get darker. This process goes on and eventually you have skin like leather and start to get funny spots on your skin which become cancerous. I live in Florida and just come here and see all these seniors with their dark, wrinkled, leathery skin on the beaches and golf courses. Pathetic!

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Elle, 4-05-2011, 2:37PM

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Do the doctors have any recommendations for products for ordinary people - those of us who would also like to be able to eat and pay for rent. Please let us know how much compensation the doctors get for recommending these products - including spa visits, free products, etc.

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csimmons61188, 4-10-2011, 8:41PM

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I still think Http://www.treatingskincancer.com using sunscreen is safer than using nothing.

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Gdazzling, 4-10-2011, 9:06PM

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The writer of the article inadequately defines the term inorganic. "Defined as an 'inorganic compound' because it's formed by chemical bonds, zinc oxide, ...." With a few exceptions, inorganic describes compounds lacking carbon atoms; whereas organic compounds are those containing at least one carbon. Chemical bonds are the essence of all compounds. It is the joining together or bonding of atoms that makes a molecule, the smallest unit of a compound.

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Rich, 4-10-2011, 9:19PM

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Rich

I want to explain this very simply...I'm 45 years old and look like I'm in my twenties.
I don't spend time at the gym or anything like that.
The key is remembering that a person is what he/she eats, drinks and breaths.
In addition, what you put on your skin (which is your body's largest organ), gets absorbed.
If you're waiting for doctors and pharmacutical companies to tell you how to be healthy, you will die waiting. Doctors patch you up after the fact. They don't get to the cause of the problem. And pharmacutical companies just want to sell you products and don't give a care about your health.

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Jack, 4-10-2011, 9:43PM

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The article fails to mention that there is ample evidence that nano or micro-types of titanium and zinc oxides are dangerous to one's health when applied topically to the surface of the skin inasmuch as these particles are so small that they are absorbed into the body and act as oxidants therein. It is important to stick to formulas of titanium and or zinc oxides that are non-nano or non-micro.

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Jentri, 4-14-2011, 4:13PM

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Hi Jack - there is not "ample evidence" to suggest that nano-sized particles of zinc oxide and titanium dioxide are harmful when applied to the skin. The study I believe you are referencing is about titanium dioxide, and it's with regards to inhalation. Scientific and regulatory literature overwhelmingly show that particles of zinc oxide greater than 30nm, when applied in a cream to healthy skin, do not get absorbed into the body, do not enter the bloodstream, and are not a threat to human health. There are no studies showing that nanoparticles of zinc oxide can penetrate human skin, whereas there are several studies showing that chemical sunscreen ingredients, which are molecular in size and thus significantly smaller than nanoparticles, are absorbed into the blood. At least one study shows that particles of zinc oxide greater than 30nm do not exhibit characteristics any different than those of larger sized particles.
In full disclosure, I work for Badger Balm (who manufactures a zinc oxide sunscreen), and we have recently switched to a non-nano zinc oxide (average particle size 6,880nm). We switched our zinc because our customers asked us to, not because we believe that smaller particle zinc oxide (our prior formulation had an average particle size of 120nm) was a danger to human health.

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Uncle Mike, 4-10-2011, 9:45PM

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I ride my bicycle long distances several times a month for recreation. I have tried five or six different major brands of sunscreen. And they all burn like 'H' when my sweaty forehead washes it into my eyes. I need to slather sunscreen around my temples and forehead owing to significant sun damage all over my face. My dermatologist instructed me to re-apply every hour-and-a-half. I think the girl (Gisele B.) might be on to something by making her own potion. Big Pharma--R U listening??

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stan Roberts, 4-11-2011, 2:14PM

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Mike, wear a hat.Rule of thumb,when you get a slightly pink tint on your skin you have received all the vitamin D your body needs for the day naturally from the sun.cover up at that point.I ride a motorcycle,and always wear long sleeves a hat with a long bill in front and never put sun tan lotion or sun screen on.Haven't been burned yet and no fear of chemical cancer,and YES I have very fair skin color that would be easily burned.

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Laser, 4-11-2011, 11:51AM

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Laser

EVER HEAR OF A HEADBAND???

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Malice914@aol.com, 4-10-2011, 9:48PM

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I agree with Comic Lewis Black. The fact that these are the same people who said eggs were good for you, then said they were bad for you. He said that this would happen that ultimately suntan lotion would be bad for us. Screw it I'm using Crisco from now on, because when you start to sizzle you move your ass.

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laustin42, 4-10-2011, 10:21PM

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I just keep it simple...I work nights and keep my ass out of the sun entirely.

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